I don’t know how they did it, but these are seriously the best fitting pants! I have short legs so need a 30” rise and it is hard to find pants at other retailers with this as a specific option. So then I end up having to get them hemmed which is a PIA. The other thing I love are the number of pockets, which allows me to avoid carrying an extra bag, as I can fit my wallet, phone, glasses, and other essentials in them. The fabric is spot on, tough but comfortable. I originally found this brand totally by accident at a very small, private sporting goods store, and am still amazed at my luck having wandered in spur of the moment. May Dovetail “live long and prosper” as I may never buy another brand again!